TSW4 CabCam Improvements All-in-One v1.37

A pack that contains all my camera mods in a single mod, TSW 4 only.
Aim is to have a realistic driver's viewpoint.

Known issues:
The scenario "Down The Line" on Great Western Expressway will not remove the driver NPC from the driver's seat as you take over - it is rooted in the way the scenario is set up. This NPC is placed in a non-standard way in this very old scenario, and it seems it is tied to fixed coordinates. If you want to play this one, disable the mod.

Changelog

Update v1.37 (2024-02-29)

applied camfixes to Salzburg - Rosenheim's BR 185, 766 and ÖBB 4024 (not the BR 111 which is fine by my standards)

Update v1.36 (2024-02-26)

Compatibility update for today's GWE patch by DTG

added

  • Maintalbahn BR 363: applied cab cam fix
  • SPG CSX GP38-2 YN2: thanks to KitKat for making me aware this was missing - so I have also reenabled the YN2 livery and applied cam and gauge fixes (you don't need KitKat's mod if you are using mine)
  • Flying Scotsman: moved a bit forward for better view onto the track

Update v1.35 (2024-02-09)

Compatibility fix for the DTG Winter Core Update Pt2

Update v1.34 (2024-02-01)

Compatibility fix for the new WSR Update (Classes 33, 47 and 52)

Update v1.33 (2024-01-15)

Compatibility update due to changes in today's official patch for Edinburgh-Glasgow

added

  • DB BR 112 / 143: more realistic lower camera position
  • Class 483 (Isle of Wight): changed the panel view to a secondary driver cam, more to the left and lower to allow keeping an eye on the speedo for HUDless playing

Update v1.32 (2023-12-15)

complete overhaul of the BRO425 lights:

  • High Beams light cone and distance changed to more realistic appearance
  • removed top light cone, as it's only a marker and distracting in foggy conditions, having you look right through the cone
  • thanks for input from a DB employee!

Update v1.31 (2023-12-11)

COMPATIBILITY UPDATE DUE TO DTG WINTER CORE PATCH PT1
Update based on DTG's changed files. Note old versions can now show strange effects, so be sure to download the fully compatible update.

Update v1.30 (2023-12-06)

fixed the lights on the BRO BR425: overbright light casting taillights fixed, reduced intensity and cone angle/rotation of Marker lights. Still full intensity using High Beams.

Update v1.29 (2023-12-02)

added

  • Clinchfield Railroad F7: moved camera forward to avoid the whistle chord obstructing the speedo view
  • Clinchfield Railroad SD40: adjusted cam, moved back to be consistent with other SD/GPs.
  • Cajon Pass F7: as CRR F7

Update v1.28 (2023-11-27)

Compatibility update to reflect todays DTG patch (affected Niddertalbahn, Dresden-Chemnitz and Preston-Blackpool)
According RVV files updated

Update v1.27 (2023-11-21)

Compatibility update to reflect today's DTG patch (affected Edinburgh-Glasgow)

  • tweaked BR 103 camera

Update v1.26 (2023-11-21)

added

  • Class 313 (ECW): raised camera
  • BR 628 (NID): small adjustments, camera was a bit off centered
  • Class 101 (TVL, GWE, NTP): raised camera

Update v1.25 (2023-11-16)

added

  • Amfleet Cab Car: by user request, lowered the camera for better visibility
  • adapted raised camera to the new Blackpool Class 47
  • MP36: moved a little closer to the controls, also giving better view through the window especially in rainy conditions

Update v1.24 (2023-11-13)

Compatibility update based on DTG's official Vorarlberg patch

Update v1.23 (2023-11-10)

added

  • Class 47: raised position, better rain visibility
  • RABe 523 (Luzern-Sursee): moved a little closer to the controls
  • TGV Duplex: lowered position, default is much too high

Update v1.22 (2023-11-07)

added

  • ALP-46 and ACS-64, both were are little off by default
  • ScotRail Class 385: moved forward to realistic position (and improved view through the window - but remember there's a trackside CCTV monitor you can use)

tweaked

  • GWE Class 166: raised driver's view (much higher in real life) and fixed secondmans's cameras.

Update v1.21 (2023-11-01)

added

  • GWE and MML HST (Class 43): adjustable camera height, move by using left / right arrow keys.

Reason is DTG's new raised camera position which is not wanted by everyone, so I thought I'd give you the choice to toggle between the two :)

Update v1.20 (2023-10-31)

  • small bugfix, when updating the files I made a typo in the KWG ICE1 camera (12 instead of 21), having you sit back too far. Sorry :)

Update v1.19 (2023-10-31)

  • due to DTG having rolled back their update, reintroduced the AssetRegistry workaround for the mod to load correctly

Update v1.18 (2023-10-31)

added

  • ALP-46: lowered position
  • GP9RM (Oakville): raised position
  • Class 52 Western: raised position
  • Class 314 (Cathcart): raised position
  • DB BR 187: lowered position
  • Glossop 323: same view as BCC 323 mod
  • WSR Class 33: small adjustments (moved back a little)
  • ALV F125: moved a bit forward

changed

  • removed AssetRegistry.bin workaround, mod should work on TSW3 too now (though not tested)
  • all files updated based on today's official DLC patches

Update v1.17 (2023-10-23)

added

  • BR Class 40: although adjustable, the view didn't go high enough for my taste. Raised it a little.
  • GWE Class 166: raised for better view through the wiper in rain
  • DB BR 612: raised a little
  • DB BR 101: view was off-centered horizontally (too far left), adjusted.

Update v1.16 (2023-10-20)

added

  • West Cornwall Class 150: moved forward for better window view
  • Midland Mainline Class 158: moved forward for better view
  • BRO BR 425: raised viewpoint

removed the MML Class 43 HST cab camera as I wasn't happy with the raised view, reverted to default

Update v1.15 (2023-10-19)

added

  • DB ICE 3(M): lowered the viewpoint (Köln-Aachen, Kassel-Würzburg, München-Augsburg)

changed

  • slight adjustments to the BR 193 Vectron

Update v1.14 (2023-10-16)

added

  • Dispolok BR 182 (slightly lowered camera)

changed

  • BCC Class 323: small improvements, slightly raised position for better rain visibility, also adjusted the misplaced secondman cameras

Update v1.12 (2023-10-13)

added

  • DB Talent 2 (BR 442 / 1442): Nahverkehr Dresden, Kassel-Würzburg, Köln-Aachen and Rapid Transit
  • DB BR 425 (Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr): raised camera and moved back

Update v1.11 (2023-10-12)

added

  • Vorarlberg BR 185.2

Update v1.1 (2023-10-12)

added

  • Railpool Vectron: moved back a little
  • all TRAXX cabs (185, 146), correctly centered, moved back and slightly lowered the camera (if I forgot a loco, I'll add it later. There's so much of them :) )
  • all Doppelstock cabs: moved forward and down a little for better view
  • SEH Class 465: lowered cam and fixed secondman's cam also
  • Boston Sprinter CTC3 cabcar: raised camera and added a secondary camera which has the Signalling Display in your view (this replaces the fuse box camera, you'll need to get out of your seat like IRL ;) )
  • missing DB BR363s according to RSN camera fix
  • Bescot's MML Class 43 HST camera mod: raised viewpoint

Update v1.04 (2023-10-08)

added

  • Cajon Pass ES44C4: Lowered view for better view through the wipers

Update v1.03 (2023-10-07)

added

  • LU 1938 Stock: raised driver's view and added secondary wide FOV camera (in exchange for the Auxiliary Panel view), raised headout cameras and dimmed the permanent cab light

Update v1.02 (2023-10-07)

  • improved the HSC NS ES44AC headlights which were illuminating the cab nose. Boosted intensity for a good track view at night now.

Update v1.01 (2023-10-05)

added

  • Horseshoe Curve: GP38-2 (additionally fixed the nuclear cablight and the right cablight lamp not illuminating) and ES44AC (moved back a little)
  • Oakville Subdivision: GP38-2
  • Peterborough - Doncaster: Class 801 (slightly lowered viewpoint)
  • Sand Patch Grade: SD40 (New Journeys expansion)
  • Cajon Pass: SD70ACe (small corrections)
  • Ruhr Sieg Nord: BR 363 (much better visibility in rain now)

Initial release

  • Sand Patch Grade: GP38-2 (featuring JetWash's gauge lights fix)
  • Schnellfahrstrecke Kassel - Würzburg: BR 401 (ICE 1)
  • Birmingham Cross City: Class 323
  • Bremen - Oldenburg: BR 110
  • Linke Rheinstrecke Mainz - Koblenz: BR 103 and BR 110
  • Metrolink Antelope Valley: Rotem Cab Car

CURRENTLY ONLY WORKING WITH TSW 4

Installation Instructions

Drop the pak into your

\Steam\steamapps\common\Train Sim World 4\WindowsNoEditor\TS2Prototype\Content\DLC\

folder.

Tags: cab camera fix mod pack tsw-4 tsw4

Files

tmSpikeesCabCamFixesTSW4.pak 8 MB · Added 22 hours ago · Downloaded 173×

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Comments

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Spikee1975 4 Oct 2023

Should work even if you're not owning all the routes.

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Spikee1975 4 Oct 2023

Best to remove the single AVL mod when using this one, in case you're experiencing issues.

Sorry for the hassle, which only DTG can resolve at the moment.

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JBViper 5 Oct 2023

The BR 110 is finally playable in rain and snow :) Thank you for this mod.

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Spikee1975 6 Oct 2023

Thanks :) The Brake key is hidden behind the E-brake handle, but that's a price I'm willing to pay, just move the brake handle a little to reach it :D

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JBViper 6 Oct 2023

Yes, excellent compromise. You can also activate it while standing, so no gameplay concerns.

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Spikee1975 6 Oct 2023

Exactly :)

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FOURPACKBECKER 8 Oct 2023

Awesome mod, any plans to do the ES44c4 from Cajon? The camera sits high and the wipers are small, so when it rains you cant really see infront of you as the wipers dont clear that much.

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Spikee1975 8 Oct 2023

I'm on it.

There you go. :)

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FOURPACKBECKER 12 Oct 2023

your the best!

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oct197 8 Oct 2023

Have you made the es44 in horseshoe cab view higher? if not I think the view needs to be higher as it seems too low. thanks

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Spikee1975 9 Oct 2023

No, if you raise it you'll have a bad visibility in rain or snow. I've actually moved it back a little, but the position is still a bit higher than in my modded Cajon Pass ES44C4. Normally the driver sits about in the middle of the side windows.
It's probably the high control stand and the towered displays in HSC's ES44 that leads to the impression you're too low.

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oct197 12 Oct 2023

That makes sense. Thanks for the info

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OleDre 16 Oct 2023

Embrace the 13 :) And thank you for making these mods for us all to enjoy and have a better gaming experience.

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Spikee1975 18 Oct 2023

Haha, was just making sure nothing goes wrong there.

Thanks for appreciating!

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OleDre 20 Oct 2023

Y'all are very welcome, I Fear Not The 13, it's been in my life and my family's life for many years. As well as here again after checking the updates here, just this one mod showed me three updates, with a total of 16 and after clicking each one, I ended up with :)

More updates to go through.
I couldn't add an image to ya reply.

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Spikee1975 20 Oct 2023

:) Next update is in the pipeline, adding the Class 150 and 158.

I think it will become a bit more quiet then, got all cameras that annoyed me adjusted now.

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OleDre 20 Oct 2023

I Look forward to it, do you have the 187? some tried to give a few touch-ups, but it still looks like ya are sitting on the desk, that is if it can be changed. I tried searching for any that may have given it a once over. https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/search?query=br+187

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Spikee1975 20 Oct 2023

Nope don't have that one as it is apparently not worth the money.

If it's on sale I might get it for the layers, and certainly include it here if I don't like the default cam.

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OleDre 21 Oct 2023

Yeah, I saw and heard that sometime after getting it. all is good though, figured I would ask.

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Spikee1975 31 Oct 2023

It will be included in the upcoming patch, got it for €7 in a bundle.

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Hand92250 20 Oct 2023

Good job !

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Spikee1975 20 Oct 2023

Thanks!

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Myron 20 Oct 2023

is the ICE 3 viewpoint based on the enhancement pack by Nagiphaaa or a bit different? and if I understood it right, if I rename this to be sorted above the enhancement pack, the ICE 3 from KWG will then use the viewport of your mod instead of the EP because it uses that first?

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Spikee1975 20 Oct 2023

I don't know that EP, all my cameras are based on the latest TSW4 default files, and my own preferences. (Lots of editing, starting the game, closing again, editing, starting the game... :D )

You'll have to try renaming the files yourself, maybe put a "!" in front of the filename of my mod and see if it supersedes your other mod then.

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Myron 21 Oct 2023

yeah already did that and it worked fine but thanks still. :)

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Spikee1975 31 Oct 2023

Update for compatibility with today's TSW core and DLC update is in the works, please standby

Mod should then work with TSW3 too, though I cannot test that at the moment.

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Spikee1975 31 Oct 2023

DTG rolled back their update. Mod still requires a workaround that prevents it from being used on TSW3.

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Spikee1975 1 Nov 2023

This mod is now fully up to date with the latest DLC patches from DTG. If you are using an older version of the mod, the updated Vectron might not work correctly. Always use the latest version of my mod :)

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Minako 3 Nov 2023

please share instructions on how to change the location of the cameras in the cockpit

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Spikee1975 4 Nov 2023

Join the TSC Discord - I won't do a tutorial here :)

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Luke Barry 11 Nov 2023

idk why u keep updating this every few days its starting to get to the point of having to get rid of this mod because of it i feel its not worth using

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Spikee1975 12 Nov 2023

"idk"? See the changelog. Adding new stuff, staying compatible with DTG's updates.

You don't have to use the mod if updates annoy you for whatever reason.

Btw, next update is coming to stay compatible with the latest DTG Vorarlberg update ;)

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Luke Barry 14 Nov 2023

yeah not for me sorry as a modder for ATS & ETS2 i dont do every 2 days updates

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Spikee1975 15 Nov 2023

It's your choice. All you need to do is overwrite the pak, but if that's too much feel free to delete it.
I'm also modding ETS2 (just for my own use though).
Ironically just because modders don't update their mods the Steam forums are full of bug reports that are due to outdated or badly maintained mods. :)

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Boomaglev 14 Nov 2023

The rotem camera rework was really needed, i was so tired of looking down to setup the cab. Many thanks!

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Spikee1975 15 Nov 2023

You're welcome.

By request, I've also adjusted the Amfleet Cab Car, will come in the next update. (And the new Blackpool 47)

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jmsimulation 16 Nov 2023

Great mod!
Can you also do it for the Ge4/4 Rhb?

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Spikee1975 18 Nov 2023

You can adjust the seat height as you like already on the Ge4/4. :)

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Smokey 16 Nov 2023

When I have T menu with instructions, zooming works too, can you disable that as in Vanilla game?

Btw, nice mod!

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Spikee1975 18 Nov 2023

No, not possible. That's core game code. And what you are describing has nothing to do with my mod.

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Smokey 3 days ago

But without that mod when "T" menu is toggled zooming camera is disabled. So it must be your mod thing.

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Spikee1975 3 days ago

Nope. That's the effect of GodMode's Zoomier Zoom, not my mod. :)

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Padruig__ 20 Nov 2023

Excellent pack, you'de made the ICE1 usable now! Well done for the improvments to all the locos. Is there a way for some trains to not have the adjustments, the 323 and 158 i liked the prevouis cab view. Thanks!

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Spikee1975 21 Nov 2023

Not really, unless removing the mod temporarily. (or just renaming it by changing the .pak suffix to something else like .bak or .inactive. Or use the Mod Manager available here.

Why do you want those extremely laid back cameras back, making the window view too narrow, instead looking at the whole cab?

The point of the mod is to have a view like you were actually the driver, and the default 323 and 158 don't give me the impression as I feel I can't reach the controls.

If someone doesn't like a particular cabview, that's nothing I can address other than telling you to disable the mod when playing a certain route - as the mod contains 90 cabviews I do not want to upload and maintain each one separately.

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Spikee1975 21 Nov 2023

Another update was necessary, as I just received a Steam update affecting Edinburgh Glasgow and the 385. Mod updated to v1.27 to reflect the changes.

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Nippur 27 Nov 2023

I found a problem with the 385, windows are almost white and can't see the exterior.

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Spikee1975 27 Nov 2023

Are you using other mods? The issue you are describing cannot be caused by my mod, as I'm not editing materials, only coordinates.

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Nippur 28 Nov 2023

I tried removing all mods except this and godmode, also removed all ini settings but when this mod is active, the Class 385 has white windows. All the other cabs looks great.

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Spikee1975 29 Nov 2023

I cannot reproduce what you are describing.

Maybe redownload the mod and try again.

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Spikee1975 6 Dec 2023

I am currently working on my own 425 fix to include here. In addition to the tail lights, I will dim the marker lights too.

Edit: Done, v1.30 uploaded includes the 425 light fixes.

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KCRCRailway 6 Dec 2023

Seems like I still got the nuclear tail light after using v1.30 with no other mods included, any clue what I should look at to figure out the issue?

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Xander1986 6 Dec 2023

Me the same it doenst work!

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Spikee1975 6 Dec 2023

Then you have selected the Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr 425. I have not changed that one, as it is a ToDv3 vehicle.
BRO is using ToDv4 which uses completely different light emissive values.

Can't be done for both, it's just due to the switchover to a new lighting system with TSW3. They had copied the Rhein-Ruhr 425 to BRO without adapting the lights, which I did.

So make sure you are using the BRO425 on TSW3/4 routes. I've double checked - it works.

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Xander1986 6 Dec 2023

Eh no! Thats not the case.... You now writing that I am talking about the 425 from Rhein Ruhr, but that is not the case! It's really about the BRO version

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KCRCRailway 7 Dec 2023

Same as Xander, I used the BOG one that only run on BOG

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Spikee1975 7 Dec 2023

I don't know. Probably another mod you are using is interfering with mine.

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KCRCRailway 7 Dec 2023

I'm testing with no other mod but this one only (still have custom .ini)

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Spikee1975 11 Dec 2023

Todays winter core patch needs the mod to be updated, hang in there. Will go out tonight.

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Myron 12 Dec 2023

v1.30 is what we needed for the recent BRO 425 headlight fix mod which probably had a compatibility issue with this. even though I don't own BRO I miiiight buy it at some point, and a TOD4 425 would come in handy anyways (idk why though lmao the TOD3 one works well enough) but thanks!

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Myron 15 Dec 2023

will the BRO 425 light overhaul also be available for the NRM 425?

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Spikee1975 16 Dec 2023

Not needed. NRM 425 runs on pre TSW3 routes, so no action needed.

BRO 425 was a special case as it's a TOD3 vehicle on a TOD4 upgraded route.

But, never say never ;)

And the top marker cone is irrelevant on NRM, as there is no volumetric fog for old routes.

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Poedem_Poezdato! 17 Dec 2023

Hello, dear Spikee1975! I really want to draw your attention to the fact that when the light in the locomotive cabin is turned on, when viewed from an external camera, it looks completely unreal! The cabin windows are usually too transparent, the interior lighting or the cabin textures themselves are too bright, and the camera's appearance looks unnatural! Is there any way to fix this? This is bad taste or incompetence due to the lack of an artist in DTG, but they will never fix it, so many locomotives have this bug with lights and cabin windows.

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Spikee1975 17 Dec 2023

Which loco are you talking about?

Also, might be worth checking out other modders (JetWash has fixed the saloon lights on the 700 for example).

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Poedem_Poezdato! 17 Dec 2023

I mean, most of the locomotives in the game. There is 1 locomotive with good glasses Cajon Pass BNSF SD 40-2 look at what kind of glass it has and what the interior looks like from an external camera through the glass and what transparency there is and compare it with all the other locomotives in the game and you will understand what I'm talking about. Thanks for your attention!

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OleDre 21 Dec 2023

While tracking down a mod or mods that would cause TSW4 to hang in a forever loading loop when trying to load several different scenarios, actually there were three so far, Two Vest mods for CSX and NS DLCs. As well as a sound mod for the class 155 working with the mod author it was worked out, I understand this may be TMI, but as I was putting the mods back in one at a time load the gammee and test & so on. I then ran across the issue as you see in the images, this only happens when CabCamFix mod is installed, and this only has happened with the class 166, when doing the "Down The Line" Scenario and when choosing either of the services on Platform 8 Slough & Platform 10 Reading and Platform 14 Hayes & Harlington doesn't have an NPC in the seat, this not an issue.

I un-installed every mod from the game and started all over again and I only have "CabCamFix" installed, I did not un-install the ini mod, I never heard of an ini mod that would have this kind of an effect on the game. Up til now I never had any issues with the CabCamFix, this is very odd. I tried to make the images smaller but still be able to see what is happening. And I will remove them to keep the thread cleaner looking if that is what you wish.

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JetWash 21 Dec 2023

I've seen exactly the same thing and haven't got as far as testing it mod free, but I suspect it's yet ANOTHER bug with the game. The NPC isn't disappearing when you sit in the seat and I'd be very surprised if a mod that simply altered camera co-ordinates could prevent that happening. It only happens in this one scenario and if you look in the external view there are two characters in the seat. It maybe that this mod has unmasked a bug that is hitherto unseen because the player has always blocked out the NPC. It’s a PITA but all I can suggest is remove the mod to play this scenario and put it back in for everything else.

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OleDre 21 Dec 2023

The scenario is playable :) But I would not be surprised if it's not another Game Bug, nevertheless, I figured Let you both know what is happening as I see it. And yes it's not that much of a hassle to remove the mod to do one or two scenarios.
I just noticed that I neglected to mention that the choose from the list that pops up was screen-capped from TSW3 as this doesn't show up in TSW4. Thanks for getting back to me. But it is kind of funny when ya think about it, no sense in crying :) Oh yeah If y'all want me to remove the images let me know.

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JetWash 21 Dec 2023

This is entirely Spikee’s mod, I’m just an interloper. Did you say it works ok when the mod is uninstalled? Maybe Spikee could take a look at it.

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OleDre 21 Dec 2023

With the mod removed, No Eye & Tongue :) took a few screencaps.

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OleDre 22 Dec 2023

Things happen, it's the life of modding, as for the second man I will have a look-see and grab a few screencaps, let me know if I should take the images down to keep the thread clean. This was not the game being buggy then?
I was going to do a scenario like the two-faced guy :), I wanted to ask you first because I don't want to do ya wrong, would rather promote the mod and I would have a disclaimer saying all was fixed and show it. Merry Christmas.

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Spikee1975 22 Dec 2023

testing... hold on...

I have checked my mod and my initial suspicion was not true, I don't see any error.

When do you see the two faced guy? Service on P8?

OK, he's on P10. Wait.

That's weird. Using my mod, the driver stays in the seat and you're on top of him. Without it, he disappears as soon as you take a seat. (Secondman has nothing to do with it, it's a driver)

I'll need some time. Because the 166 is set up a little different. The camera coordinates are not relative to the seat, but to the loco centre. This must have something to do with it.

If it only affects this scenario, I'm gonna leave it as it is. If I can take over any service on foot, then it's not worth the effort.

I'm not sure how this old scenario is scripted. But it seems the way the NPC is removed is different than normal...

If I take over any service, it works. It is just this one scenario that works in a different way.

But I will see on which coordinate it depends, maybe changing the X a little will resolve this

Nothing I can do here
The driver change in this scenario is somehow depending on the coordinates, if I change the camera just by 0.1 it's not working. This one is pretty weird... the NPC is not placed in the vehicle like a normal NPC, it seems he is tied to fixed coordinates that are related to the driver CAM not the SEAT. As these coordinates have changed, he is non-existent for the game and doesn't get removed. So the bug is in the design of that one scenario. (which is one of the oldest TSW scenarios.)

I won't remove the 166 from the mod just because of this one scenario, so I'll leave it at that.

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OleDre 22 Dec 2023

I hear ya, and it's no biggie, I didn't expect you to go through all this, sometimes it's just not worth it, and hear ya and can understand. The mod can be deactivated when doing either of those scenarios on Platforms 8 and 10 and I just did some of a timetable service with a 323 and took over from the AI NPC with no issues at all. There is something that is just off with the 166 and "Down The Line Scenario" The pop choice of routes to take does not show in TSW4 & Yet in TSW3 it does most times the is. I appreciate what you have done and the time you took to make this mod, not to mention troubleshoot it now. Heck, you have done more than you need to with this one, and if I could tip all y'all modders I would, I can live with it as is.

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Spikee1975 22 Dec 2023

The introductory scenario on GWE was also broken for years, not recognising you taking a seat. It seems they are set up differently.

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OleDre 22 Dec 2023

So it would seem, and TSW4 is just helping to bring the issues to light even more so on this one, that is a shame I kinda like the 166, the way it sounds and rides. so much more could have been done with it. Who knows if they released the source code like a few others have, well then maybe. Wish I could have stayed with modding but life had its way and those days are way beyond me now. That is why I try to give back what I can in my own way.

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CTSL Railfan 25 Dec 2023

is it possible for you to lower the caab view for the mbta cab car? it's way too high up when compared to real life.

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Spikee1975 26 Dec 2023

You mean the CTC-3? I've worked on this already, I think it has good view. If I lower it, you can't see the cab-signalling displays...

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Khonsu 27 Dec 2023

were to install this mod on the TSW4 from gamepass?

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Spikee1975 28 Dec 2023

I don't have that, so I don't know. I'm using the Steam version.

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Khonsu 29 Dec 2023

ouch

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Nuwanda 15 days ago

On the gamepass version, each DLC has its own folder. By default it should be in C:\XboxGames. For e.g., I have mine here: C:\XboxGames\Metrolink Antelope Valley Line\Content\TS2Prototype\Content\DLC.

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Spikee1975 11 days ago

Nuwanda, does the mod work with the Gamepass version?

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Stexred one month ago

the West Somerset Railway update breaks the class 33 (window view is bad now )probably other trains on that route too did not check the rest

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Spikee1975 one month ago

New update is just being uploaded :) (WSR Class 33, 47 and 52 affected)

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Stexred one month ago

cool :)

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chalismaximus 16 days ago

Hey I dunno if this mod already does this but can I get a driver POV cam while an AI is driving the train?

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Spikee1975 11 days ago

Not possible. Sit in the secondman's seat :)

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